Todayâs guest is Leigh Stein, six-time author, cultural critic, creator of the newsletter Attention Economy, and book publishing coach. As she puts it, in her cultural criticism, she âmakes fun of what the internet is doing to us.â
In this issue:
âď¸ A useful distinction between âwritingâ and âcontentâ
đ¤ Finding and figuring out how to play to your unique advantages
đŹď¸ Approach side projects like a limited series for more effective results
â Francis Zierer, Editor
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âWhat if this is actually the best possible time to be a writer?â
Do you want to publish a book? Maybe six? First, be 17. Be active on LiveJournal. Drop out of high school. Go to community college, then acting school. Move to New Mexico. Donât get an MFA. Done? Great: publish your first book; youâve done it. Youâll soon publish your second. This coming summer, you will publish your sixth.
This has been Leigh Steinâs path. Sheâs a largely self-taught writer who built a career using the internet and, along the way, has helped other writers do the same. Engaging with a community on LiveJournal in the early 2000s opened her eyes to ways of making a living as a writer, and today, she still feels like her âmission is to help other writers do something similar, to circumvent the gatekeepers by figuring out how to create content and build your own audience.â
Leigh makes a living through four different income streams:
Coaching: This is her âanchor businessâ and represents 60â80% of her income in any given year. Her services, oriented around helping writers progress their careers, include one-on-one sessions, editorial feedback, and influencer outreach, and more. A recent success: helping 64-year-old literary agent Betsy Lerner go viral on TikTok reading her college diaries, resulting in coverage in The New York Times and on CBS.
Teaching: This represents 10% of her income. Throughout the year, Leigh offers several courses, including one on memoir writing.
Newsletter: This represents another 10% of her income. After seven years writing her newsletter, Leigh only began offering a paid subscription last summer. âIt's a newsletter about the internet side of book publishing.â
Writing: âItâs just hard to assign a percentage to writing,â Leigh says. There are years where she sells a book and years where she doesnât; âI've had a year where I made six figures as a writer, and I've had a year where I've made $0 as a writer.â
Attention Economy, Leighâs newsletter, has around 11,000 subscribers, 400 of whom pay for the privilege for a total of around $2,000 per month.
In one of her most popular newsletter issues, from last summer, Leigh urges her readers to âstart differentiating between writing and creating content.â She described the newsletter audience she wrote that line to as people interested in her classes and coaching services, which is to say, professional writers and people working in the publishing industry; when she says âwriting,â in this context, sheâs specifically referring to writing meant for physical publication.
One distinction Leigh draws between her writing and her content is effort; her writing is âalways professionally edited,â whereas her newsletter has no editor and is written quickly in 1â2 hours. Another important distinction is how the two forms generate income:
âHow I make money on my writing: by selling my novel to a publisher; by earning freelance income from newspapers and magazines
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How I make money on my content: by selling more copies of my novel; by enrolling students in my classes; by building trust with writers who become my clients; by demonstrating my expertise which leads to speaking and teaching invitations; by earning income directly from my readers in exchange for offering them special events with book publishing professionalsâ
Leighâs distinctions are useful and should be used as a model for any writer or creator, but depending on your preferred creative media, you may need to tweak the distinction. If youâre a YouTuber whose primary product is 30-minute monthly videos monetized through both YouTube Adsense and your own advertising partners, thatâs your âwriting,â and your âcontentâ might be short-form videos across other platforms that funnel viewers back to your YouTube channel.
âA writer's task in the creator economy is to grow their audience by producing content that their readers want to see and hear so that those readers will find their art, their books.â
Attention is a limited resource; there are only so many people with so much time in the day to read a book, watch a video, or read a newsletter.
âI think writers feel entitled to an audience because they feel like writing is a craft that they've practiced, a skill that they've learned, and that should entitle them to an audience of readers.
Unfortunately, it doesn't work that way. And I see creating content as a way to kind of run experiments and to learn what your audience is looking for.â
The internet has made publishing any form of writing or video to distributed audiences easier. For a brief window, when fewer people were publishing on the internet, it was extremely easy to get your content in front of others. Itâs harder now than it used to be, but still true in the infancy of any platform with built-in discoverability; many of the most successful writers on Substack were early adopters, and now itâs harder to build an audience there; the same is already true of Bluesky.
Itâs still easy to get your work in front of other people, even at scale, but doing so requires more specialist knowledge than it used to; posting blindly into the ether used to be more effective than it is now. To survive in the creator economy, you have to become a good marketer. Leigh spoke about the volume of people in the creative writing world who have come through MFA programs, saying that these people arenât necessarily advantaged. She did not get an MFA; she has published soon-to-be six books.
âIn my estimation, these programs train you for a career working in the programs, not necessarily for a career publishing books.â
Content is a dialogue â this is another strong differentiation Leigh gives between writing (or âart,â as she said) and content.
âI think of content as a dialogue that I'm having. Like, you get to comment, you get to participate. Whereas when my novel is published, it's done.
You can tell me that you loved it. But if you send me an email to point out something that could have been changed or different, this is not a conversation. That book is done.â
Content is fluid and malleable; art is something you finish and can no longer edit. I donât entirely agree with the second half of that statement, but I do think itâs a useful distinction for creators. You have to know when to stop working on something, whether thatâs a book, a painting, or a long YouTube video; part of the craft is knowing when the piece is done.
âFrom writers, a question I get asked a lot is, how do I have time to make content? Because to them, it's a chore. It's one more thing to do, like washing the dishes. But to me, if I finish my work, I get to go on the internet. It's my treat. It's not my chore.â
Making content is a chore if all you want to do is write â in the sense that Leigh speaks about writing. The trick, I find, is in reframing those two things. The internet requires us to be full-spectrum communicators, not just to be good at writing, but to be good at crystallizing ideas, at understanding (by actively discovering) what audiences respond to, and at understanding different media as a quiver. You must find joy in sharpening different arrowheads and stocking the quiver.
Sure, we canât all be as great at writing as we are at making TikTok videos, shooting photographs, or writing tweets. (Rearrange the order of those outputs to your own ability). But thatâs why people like Leigh hang their shingles on the internet: if youâre an incredible novelist looking for someone to help you break into BookTok, sheâs your person. Just not quite yet â sheâs still wrapping up work on her next book.
Connect with Leigh on Instagram or TikTok.
Read and subscribe to Attention Economy.
đď¸ This was an excellent conversation. It was impossible to fit every topic we touched on in this newsletter â hereâs some of what we touch on in the podcast:
00:00 Leigh's prolific content output
01:43 Is now the best time to be a writer?
04:38 Defining writing vs. content
08:47 The art is the product
16:45 Does form come before content?
20:25 TikTokâs instability and the importance of BookTok
23:09 Leigh's journey through the literary world
27:25 We're influencing, not influencers
34:54 Writing Attention Economy
40:52 How to make your content shareable
42:54 Destroying the stigma of self-publishing
45:55 The magical portal to likeminded people
48:54 Leigh's upcoming projects
52:27 Advice for other creators
If you prefer to listen on your favorite podcast platform, click here.
I love a limited series. Some TV shows can go on for five, six, 30 seasons ⌠most canât. Give me a beginning, but give me an end, and tell me itâs in sight. Limits benefit creativity. To that point, Leigh had some great advice. This wonât be the first time youâve heard this sentiment, nor should it be the last.
âCome up with a side project.
Think about what would be a fun side project and say, what if, instead of thinking of starting a newsletter, what if I started a project where I invited other people to do this thing with me? What if we did it for 30 days? What if we did it for three months?
Give it a limited time window.
Or say, I'm going to post on Y platform once a day for X number of days. Let people in on the project. Tell people. It doesn't have to be a secret.
You can announce it and say, you know, âI'm going to try to do this. I'm a little nervous. And I'm worried I'm going to look stupid.â Invite people along.
Even if that side project doesn't get you 10,000 followers, you'll learn by doing it. You'll learn the platform. Or you'll learn, wow, those nine things didn't work. But the thing I did on day 10 totally worked!
It's just about trying something and having a mindset of playing on the playground.â
Three easy rules:
Pick a length of time. One month should be the minimum for most projects.
Pick a collaborator. If you can do you, you do you. But if you need a second party to keep you accountable, itâs easier to get someone involved for a temporary project than an endless project.
Actually follow through.
Leigh pulled off a great side project â really more of a bit â at the start of 2024, promoting her book "Self Care.â She explained the whole thing in her newsletter far better than I could, but the point is it worked. The shortest way I can describe it is she made up a fake job working for a fake company (from her book), pretended sheâd quit book publishing to work there, then pretended sheâd been fired from her pretend job. The bit went on for about eight weeks.
One of her posts got 1 million views
She was invited on multiple podcasts to talk about it
It drove a significant spike in book sales
It was âthe most funâ sheâd had âin a long timeâ â this is important and should be a primary goal for any good side project; break the monotony
The lesson here is to run side projects either separately or within your main projects and treat them like a limited series. Set rules. Itâs easier to complete a challenge when you know where it ends.
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